Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:18:56 +0000 (22:18 +0100)]
SECURITY: Don't miss the very last byte when reading long lines from -H
Credits: Qualys
2/ In src/spool_in.c:
462 while ( (len = Ustrlen(big_buffer)) == big_buffer_size-1
463 && big_buffer[len-1] != '\n'
464 )
465 { /* buffer not big enough for line; certs make this possible */
466 uschar * buf;
467 if (big_buffer_size >= BIG_BUFFER_SIZE*4) goto SPOOL_READ_ERROR;
468 buf = store_get_perm(big_buffer_size *= 2, FALSE);
469 memcpy(buf, big_buffer, --len);
The --len in memcpy() chops off a useful byte (we know for sure that
big_buffer[len-1] is not a '\n' because we entered the while loop).
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Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sat, 21 Nov 2020 21:03:03 +0000 (22:03 +0100)]
SECURITY: off-by-one in smtp transport (read response)
Credits: Qualys
1/ In src/transports/smtp.c:
2281 int n = sizeof(sx->buffer);
2282 uschar * rsp = sx->buffer;
2283
2284 if (sx->esmtp_sent && (n = Ustrlen(sx->buffer)) < sizeof(sx->buffer)/2)
2285 { rsp = sx->buffer + n + 1; n = sizeof(sx->buffer) - n; }
This should probably be either:
rsp = sx->buffer + n + 1; n = sizeof(sx->buffer) - n - 1;
or:
rsp = sx->buffer + n; n = sizeof(sx->buffer) - n;
(not sure which) to avoid an off-by-one.
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Phil Pennock [Mon, 2 Nov 2020 07:39:38 +0000 (02:39 -0500)]
Start documenting the things we changed incompatibly.
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125f0d4afbc858cf514c29326a3016c2d9d7bdc1)
Phil Pennock [Mon, 2 Nov 2020 07:23:14 +0000 (02:23 -0500)]
Inline four often-called new functions
The BDAT state switchers should happen so often during SMTP reception that a
compiler hint to inline seems wise.
The length filter checks happen on every start-up, which for Exim is often
enough that I think an inline these is warranted too.
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Jeremy Harris [Sat, 31 Oct 2020 14:36:55 +0000 (14:36 +0000)]
Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 03:21:36 +0000 (23:21 -0400)]
SECURITY: rework BDAT receive function handling
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96fb195ebc2eb6790e6ad6dde46d478aee62198d)
Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 02:40:59 +0000 (22:40 -0400)]
SECURITY: fix SMTP verb option parsing
A boundary case in looking for an opening quote before the closing quote could
walk off the front of the buffer.
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:48:05 +0000 (21:48 -0400)]
SECURITY: Avoid integer overflow on too many recipients
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323ff55e67b44e95f9d3cfaba155e385aa33c4bd)
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:38:25 +0000 (21:38 -0400)]
SECURITY: default recipients_max to 50,000
A default of "unlimited" can have unfortunate consequences when people start
putting many millions of recipients on a message.
(cherry picked from commit
1d7780722a66cea8da5fa4ae0775e85d185fbf7e)
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a6e1f69d82adcfd3caab8f228d96750dfddc8f07)
Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:30:04 +0000 (21:30 -0400)]
SECURITY: a second negative store guard
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 00:49:49 +0000 (20:49 -0400)]
SECURITY: refuse too small store allocations
Negative sizes are definitely bad.
Optimistically, I'm saying that zero is bad too. But perhaps we have something
doing that, expecting to be able to grow. In which case we'll have to amend
this.
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 00:42:40 +0000 (20:42 -0400)]
SECURITY: fix Qualys CVE-2020-PFPZA
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0a6a7a3fd8464bae9ce0cf889e8eeb0bf0bab756)
Phil Pennock [Thu, 29 Oct 2020 23:00:51 +0000 (19:00 -0400)]
SECURITY: fix Qualys CVE-2020-PFPSN
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Phil Pennock [Thu, 29 Oct 2020 15:47:58 +0000 (11:47 -0400)]
SECURITY: fix Qualys CVE-2020-SLCWD
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Phil Pennock [Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:40:37 +0000 (18:40 -0400)]
SECURITY: pick up more argv length checks
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Phil Pennock [Thu, 29 Oct 2020 22:11:35 +0000 (18:11 -0400)]
SECURITY: length limits on many cmdline options
We'll also now abort upon, rather than silently truncate, a driver name
(router, transport, ACL, etc) encountered in the config which is longer than
the 64-char limit.
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:25:42 +0000 (10:25 -0400)]
Re-ran the conversion of all DH parameters
I get different results now to those I got before.
Now, using gen_pkcs3 linked against OpenSSL 1.1.1f-1ubuntu2 on Focal Fossa, I
get the results below. The ffdhe2048 value now matches that at
<https://ssl-config.mozilla.org/ffdhe2048.txt>.
I ran the same code yesterday for just the ffdhe2048 item and got code which
seemed to me then to match what was already in the C file. Something hinky is
going on, perhaps with my sanity.
(the commit IDs changee because of heavy rebasing (heiko))
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Simon Arlott [Thu, 24 Sep 2020 22:03:14 +0000 (23:03 +0100)]
gen_pkcs3: Terminate string before calling BH_hex2bn()
Signed-off-by: Phil Pennock <pdp@exim.org>
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Phil Pennock [Fri, 30 Oct 2020 02:14:45 +0000 (22:14 -0400)]
Default config: reject on too many bad RCPT
An example exploit failed against my system, because I had this sanity guard in
place; it's not a real security fix since a careful attacker could find enough
valid recipients to hit that problem, but it highlights that this is a useful
enough pattern that we should encourage its wider use.
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346f96bad326893f9c1fa772a5b8ac35b1f8f7bd)
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:56:59 +0000 (07:56 +0100)]
Handle SIGINT as we do with SIGTERM
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f9c8211fb0ad0dd362f471978a5e0abc5dfa71b4)
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Thu, 18 Mar 2021 06:59:21 +0000 (07:59 +0100)]
Enforce pid_file_path start at "/"
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Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Mon, 29 Mar 2021 16:17:55 +0000 (18:17 +0200)]
testsuite: tidy logs/4520 and confs/4520
This fixed 4520 failure en-passant, but I'm sure it's a timing issue
here (the order of the mainlog output lines didn't exactly match the
logs/4520)
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Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Tue, 16 Mar 2021 22:44:29 +0000 (23:44 +0100)]
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 25 May 2021 00:35:43 +0000 (01:35 +0100)]
Use separate line in Received: header for timestamp
u34 [Sun, 9 May 2021 09:34:07 +0000 (11:34 +0200)]
Docs: assorted fixes
Closes 2752
Closes 2753
Closes 2658
Closes 2659
Closes 2712
Closes 2720
Closes 2721
Closes 2722
Closes 2746
Closes 2748
Closes 2749
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:28:18 +0000 (21:28 +0200)]
Docs: typo
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sun, 16 May 2021 17:11:19 +0000 (19:11 +0200)]
Fix host_name_lookup (Close 2747)
Thanks to Nico R for providing a reproducing configuration.
host_lookup = *
message_size_limit = ${if def:sender_host_name {32M}{32M}}
acl_smtp_connect = acl_smtp_connect
acl_smtp_rcpt = acl_smtp_rcpt
begin acl
acl_smtp_connect:
warn ratelimit = 256 / 1m / per_conn
accept
acl_smtp_rcpt:
accept hosts = 127.0.0.*
begin routers
null:
driver = accept
transport = null
begin transports
null:
driver = appendfile
file = /dev/null
Tested with
swaks -f mailbox@example.org -t mailbox@example.org --pipe 'exim -bh 127.0.0.1 -C /opt/exim/etc/exim-bug.conf'
The IP must have a PTR to "localhost." to reproduce it.
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Jeremy Harris [Wed, 12 May 2021 14:01:12 +0000 (15:01 +0100)]
Named Queues: fix immediate-delivery. Bug 2743
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 11 May 2021 12:51:22 +0000 (13:51 +0100)]
OpenBSD: remove redundant platform define
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Tue, 11 May 2021 08:48:17 +0000 (10:48 +0200)]
TLS DANE to multiple recipients w/ different DNSSec status
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Mon, 3 May 2021 13:53:28 +0000 (15:53 +0200)]
Fix DANE + SNI handling (Bug 2265)
Broken in
d8e99d6047e709b35eabb1395c2046100d1a1dda
Thanks to JGH and Wolfgang Breyha for contributions.
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e8ac8be0a3d56ba0a189fb970c339ac6e84769be)
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 8 May 2021 22:07:34 +0000 (23:07 +0100)]
DNS: Better handling of SOA when negative-caching lookups
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 5 May 2021 19:14:47 +0000 (20:14 +0100)]
wip
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 4 May 2021 15:08:18 +0000 (16:08 +0100)]
Debug: output dmarc library version
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 4 May 2021 12:06:31 +0000 (13:06 +0100)]
Fix ${ipv6norm:}
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Tue, 27 Apr 2021 07:31:49 +0000 (09:31 +0200)]
Docs: typo. Closes 2713
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 12:54:11 +0000 (12:54 +0000)]
tidying
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 25 Apr 2021 16:24:31 +0000 (17:24 +0100)]
Testsuite: tidying
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 25 Apr 2021 12:02:01 +0000 (13:02 +0100)]
Taint: enforce untainted ACL text line
Simon Arlott [Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:11:13 +0000 (17:11 +0100)]
Fix time usage on non-subtick-resolution platforms
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:37:10 +0000 (22:37 +0100)]
Docs: note caching of auto-generated server certificate
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 18 Apr 2021 00:51:28 +0000 (01:51 +0100)]
Experimental: ESMTP LIMITS extension
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 17 Apr 2021 23:34:32 +0000 (00:34 +0100)]
Testsuite: output changes arising
Somewhere recently (possibly
3f06b9b4c7) we stopped overwriting errno;
the "Permission denied" seen now in 4520 for the ${bogus} expansion is
as expected.
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 11 Apr 2021 15:39:06 +0000 (16:39 +0100)]
Log queue_time and queue_time_overall exclusive of receive time. Bug 2672
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:21:05 +0000 (22:21 +0100)]
taint: allow appendfile create_file option to specify a de-tainting safe path
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Mon, 12 Apr 2021 06:41:44 +0000 (08:41 +0200)]
Set mainlog_name and rejectlog_name unconditionally.
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 10 Apr 2021 18:36:17 +0000 (19:36 +0100)]
Logging: better tracking of continued-connection use
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 7 Apr 2021 20:34:42 +0000 (21:34 +0100)]
Pass proxy addresses/ports to continued trasnports. Bug 2710
Jeremy Harris [Mon, 5 Apr 2021 20:23:10 +0000 (21:23 +0100)]
Docs: add warning note on ${listnamed:} operator
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Mon, 5 Apr 2021 06:24:19 +0000 (08:24 +0200)]
Docs: mention *_environment in "Misc" section"
Jeremy Harris [Mon, 5 Apr 2021 12:41:50 +0000 (13:41 +0100)]
Disable server-side close timing sophistication on MacOS
Broken-by: 001bf8f587
Jeremy Harris [Mon, 5 Apr 2021 12:06:42 +0000 (13:06 +0100)]
Docs: add example for DKIM dual-signing
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 3 Apr 2021 19:56:50 +0000 (20:56 +0100)]
TLS: harden error-detection in TLS proxy process
Jeremy Harris [Fri, 19 Mar 2021 20:42:25 +0000 (20:42 +0000)]
Make smtp_accept_max_per_connection expanded
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:55:03 +0000 (10:55 +0200)]
testsuite: fix runtest (File::Copy used in another place)
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:37:15 +0000 (12:37 +0200)]
build: Allow environment EXIM_RELEASE_VERSION
This should easy automated testing where no .git directory
is available (as is happens with git worktrees)
Setting this environment variable makes the reversion script
using it instead of searching for version.sh or using `git describe`.
Jeremy Harris [Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:11:11 +0000 (12:11 +0100)]
Docs: clarify list-separator requirements
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:44:07 +0000 (10:44 +0100)]
typoes
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Thu, 1 Apr 2021 09:33:01 +0000 (11:33 +0200)]
testsuite: provide cp() if File::Copy is too old.
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Wed, 31 Mar 2021 20:46:27 +0000 (22:46 +0200)]
testsuite: use File::Copy "cp" to copy the permissions (x-bit)
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sun, 28 Mar 2021 17:05:10 +0000 (19:05 +0200)]
testsuite: add --fail-any option to runtest
This option makes runtest's exit status !0 on any failure in any test.
(Useful in -c mode and git-bisect)
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 28 Mar 2021 00:56:14 +0000 (00:56 +0000)]
Memory handling: fix size backoff on store-reset
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 27 Mar 2021 23:49:50 +0000 (23:49 +0000)]
Memory debug: do not try to save allocation bytes used for debug as ACL can modify debugging status
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:52:18 +0000 (12:52 +0100)]
testsuite: make runtest exit(!0) on failure in continue mode
This makes it possible to use `runtest -c <xx>` for `git bisect run …`
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:51:40 +0000 (12:51 +0100)]
testsuite: tidy runtest
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:00:13 +0000 (17:00 +0000)]
GnuTLS: use a less bogus-looking temporary filename for DH-parameters
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:43:43 +0000 (19:43 +0000)]
Avoid all tail-end pipelining on retries
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Thu, 25 Mar 2021 11:58:50 +0000 (12:58 +0100)]
Build: use PHDRS set in the toplevel Makefile
They're passed as HDRS, but the lookups/Makefile referenced the PHDRS
(which was empty)
E.g. touch src/functions.h didn't force a rebuild of the lookups.a
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 23 Mar 2021 00:39:54 +0000 (00:39 +0000)]
Avoid building routines calling other not incuded in utilities link stage
This should fix a Solaris build error probably inserted by
92583637b2
Jeremy Harris [Mon, 22 Mar 2021 21:47:42 +0000 (21:47 +0000)]
Avoid clearing first_delivery flag on the initial half of a 2-phase queue run
Jeremy Harris [Fri, 19 Mar 2021 00:44:58 +0000 (00:44 +0000)]
Builtin macros for Experimental features
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 21 Mar 2021 00:02:07 +0000 (00:02 +0000)]
DNS: explicit alloc/free of workspace
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 20 Mar 2021 22:41:50 +0000 (22:41 +0000)]
Memory debug: track max pool order, fix nonpool accounting
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 17:45:27 +0000 (17:45 +0000)]
Memory handling: exponentially-increasing alloc size
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 17:37:11 +0000 (17:37 +0000)]
DKIM: Force use of tainted mem for headers
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 15:51:18 +0000 (15:51 +0000)]
Avoid needless alloc for null header
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 17:25:11 +0000 (17:25 +0000)]
DKIM: verify using separate pool-pair, reset per message
Jeremy Harris [Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:13:51 +0000 (16:13 +0000)]
testsuite output changes resulting
Broken-by: 649c209e19
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 17 Mar 2021 14:33:46 +0000 (14:33 +0000)]
Linux and the BSDs have getifaddrs(). Use it and save a bunch of complex coding.
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 17 Mar 2021 00:03:50 +0000 (00:03 +0000)]
testsuite output changes resulting
Broken-by: 649c209e19
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 20:39:03 +0000 (20:39 +0000)]
Pipeline QUIT after data
Jeremy Harris [Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:44:27 +0000 (22:44 +0000)]
Debug: tag client SMTP output with buffering qualifier
Heiko Schlittermann (HS12-RIPE) [Sun, 14 Mar 2021 11:16:57 +0000 (12:16 +0100)]
Fix error messages in dbfn_open
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:40:02 +0000 (13:40 +0100)]
Doc: more explicit hinting on tls_try_verify_hosts.
Bernd Kuhls [Mon, 8 Mar 2021 12:04:34 +0000 (13:04 +0100)]
Fix uClibc build
structs.h:757:18: error: ‘NS_MAXMSG’ undeclared here (not in a function); did you mean ‘N_MASC’?
uschar answer[NS_MAXMSG]; /* the answer itself */
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:00:27 +0000 (20:00 +0000)]
wip
Jeremy Harris [Sun, 7 Mar 2021 00:07:24 +0000 (00:07 +0000)]
Revert "Docs: typos"
This reverts commit
1ad20e19a669731c19852c865facabe4816ae4f9.
These are not typos; "provably" is a real word and accurate in context.
Jim Pazarena [Sat, 6 Mar 2021 23:36:27 +0000 (00:36 +0100)]
Docs: typos
Jeremy Harris [Sat, 27 Feb 2021 19:01:07 +0000 (19:01 +0000)]
Docs: fix description of hosts_try_dane. Bug 2704
Jeremy Harris [Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:31:48 +0000 (19:31 +0000)]
Queryprogram router: call extract fn directly rather than via string-expansion
This is not only safer (vs. unexpected expansions), but more efficient
Jeremy Harris [Tue, 23 Feb 2021 17:32:04 +0000 (17:32 +0000)]
Bulid: fix DISABLE_PIPE_CONNECT build. Bug 270333
Jeremy Harris [Mon, 22 Feb 2021 21:24:01 +0000 (21:24 +0000)]
Fix list-expansion for various domainlists, having included sublist elements. Bug 2701
Jasen Betts [Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:37:24 +0000 (13:37 +0000)]
Testsuite: fix error message. Bug 2700
Heiko Schlichting [Fri, 19 Feb 2021 11:18:04 +0000 (11:18 +0000)]
spamd: Use macro for default priority. Bug 2694
Heiko Schlichting [Fri, 19 Feb 2021 11:16:10 +0000 (11:16 +0000)]
Use random_number rather than random, for external server distribution. Bug 2694
Heiko Schlichting [Fri, 19 Feb 2021 11:14:36 +0000 (11:14 +0000)]
Fix weight calculation for socks_proxy. Bug 2694
Heiko Schlichting [Fri, 19 Feb 2021 11:11:51 +0000 (11:11 +0000)]
Fix weight calculation for spamd_address. Bug 2694
Jeremy Harris [Thu, 18 Feb 2021 22:00:46 +0000 (22:00 +0000)]
Docs: yet more on $domain_data
Jim Pazarena [Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:23:08 +0000 (21:23 +0000)]
Docs: typo
Jeremy Harris [Thu, 18 Feb 2021 21:17:40 +0000 (21:17 +0000)]
Debugging: avoid expansion problem with foolish-length list output